Saturday, February 8, 2014

Use of Super Zhang Liao

Well, I guess many would use Super Zhang Liao for those who stucked at Shouthern or Liang Horse.
However for those who cleared Super Cao Ren already, do they need to change?

The answer lies in the battle report below:

This is the Alliance 2nd NPC. Have 2 stunners. Imagine if you use Sun Jian.
What do you think will happen?
http://s56.tk.huayugame.com/?reports/2014/2/9/1391927151106_n1_-2037645200?flg=0&version=0.0.0.1

So the main question is, Super Zhang Liao pushes map better. However, even after reduced difficulty in the upcoming patch, it shall only improve by 1 map which is not enough to get Super Pang Tong yet. Will you risk pvp for this slight improvement? I am sure 200 patch with Super Zhang Liao is sure able to down Super Pang Tong but definitely not with Sun Jian (Not sure about Super Sun Ce though)

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  1. just gonna share my point of view in my perspective..

    do you think pvp is very 'risked' by changing SJ to GZL ?
    on d cons, we lost some damage on the first hit advantage and no buff to our STA hero yes, while it can be offset quite a bit with GZL defense boost (esp one with higher FS). so i think its pretty much damage vs defense debate. Personally, I do not need to play Echelon form just yet, invested quite heavily on EVA form, with the increased defense + EVA form combo i can last quite a bit depending on enemy's hit rate and with the additional of GCR if i am on Echo, my MDR is pretty hard to be reached but i know this wont last very long.

    while for pve, for semi vip players like me, i'd be on my death end if i am using SJ all d way till i get GGY which is like heaven and earth =D

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    1. I do not question what you said. You would be risking danger of changing SJ to God Zhang Liao.

      My guess is that eventually every mid level VIP players in country battle would be using double defense of ZGL+SCR or SZL + SCR. Those with SGJ win instead... The problem is that getting GGY with SJ will probably take 220 due to high damage from npc.

      This is 66% Alliance btw :
      http://s56.tk.huayugame.com/?reports/2014/2/12/1392214413409_n0_1778679937?flg=0&version=0.0.0.1

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  2. May I ask, that is one way of going with GZL, what about the idea of going through maps with SGJ on red book? I see you played 2 healers there, does that mean you invested mostly on TCA alone for the array? If I am not mistaken, past a certain map, additional TCA damage return ratio diminished more vs the increasing STA effectiveness with cost considered.
    Since I have not seen what u did back there, what would happen if u replace one of the healer be it Emp or SDC to SGJ? And SGJ's damage will be much more effective with SJ instead of GZL.. the way i see it there, your GZL damage only tickles.... may I know your TCA estimation for that GZL? For myself, i will probably proceed with GZL +GCR but main gun will be SGJ as he'd slowly take over over time when i am done maximizing its damage.

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  3. 1) what about the idea of going through maps with SGJ on red book?
    Same. Will stuck at this map based on current patch. Gold book can reach cut road and will get SPT after next reduction in difficulty

    2) Does that mean you invested mostly on TCA?
    Yes. Dragon Array level 80 for TCA. Level 60 for 2 other arrays

    3) Replace either SDC or EX with SGJ.
    Worst still. My SGJ total STA is now 30k or so. Without reachin 35 or 36k its almost 0 damage. That is only possible if i still have SJ around for that buff, even so will take me some time for my SGJ research.
    Red book study 27, level 180 enhanced max
    Tech + Super Tech maxed
    4 gold jades 2 orange jade and 2 purple jades all STA.
    Research: 5 passive (green, green, blue, purple, purple) Average 10
    Array: level 60
    Flag: 2x Level 6 flags

    4) My TCA estimation.
    According to my calculation. My total TCA stands at 75.6k.
    - 8 gold jades average purple stats
    - Gold horse study 27 , level 180 enhanced max
    - Array level 80, TCA all up
    - 2 x Level 7 TCA flags
    - Tech + Super Tech maxed
    - Research: Green 12, Green 20, Blue 20, Purple 16, Purple 19

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    1. Woah. Thanks for the detailed information. So I guess it's all about time for array/jade/research to build up.
      If I may ask, do u still invest further in TCA or still planning to? I guess the only one left would be your research and Array? I was thinking if I should switch focus to STA if I am already at your level of TCA.

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    2. Me? I capping TCA to 80k. Which is the max for now before I going to second attacker which is my current healing. Since my book already max. Its just the array and Super Guo Jia research.

      I suggest you to go STA if you have gold book. Otherwise if its just red,. Maybe follow my scheme to do one by one better.

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    3. which means u're going to lv100 TCA array first? then move on to up lv60 STA array?

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